Minard and Huff both deny that Carson was “ambushed” by the situation. Prior to the controversy, Carson and Minard and their respective families were friends.
It was through this controversy with Carson (who has previously been on Joe Rogan’s podcast), that Rogan learned of Huff and invited Huff to be on “The Joe Rogan Experience.” Their discussion, which is being widely shared and praised by Christian leaders, ran for over three hours and was recorded just before the new year.
This whole interview is worth watching.
You can feel a tidal shift that is worth noting.
Late modernity isn’t working and people are looking for something more substantive.
That thing is the Gospel of Jesus Christ:https://t.co/HSMtkT6Lep
— Michael S. Graham (@msgwrites) January 8, 2025
In addition to the debate with Carson, Wesley Huff and Joe Rogan discussed ancient languages, artifacts, and manuscripts for a significant portion of their conversation. During the last hour of their talk, the two were discussing the origins of the universe, and Rogan quoted ethnobotanist Terence McKenna as saying, “Science requires one miracle: the Big Bang.”
“Well, I always say that, when people ask me about the miracles in the Bible,” said Huff, “I say, ‘Well, you know, if the first miracle happened, if…nothing became everything, then Jesus turning water into wine…’”
”That’s an easy one,” Rogan interjected. “That’s a party trick.”
“That really is nothing compared to the birth of the universe,” Rogan continued, “but we’re convinced at the creation of the universe, and we’re very skeptical at other miracles,” a skepticism Rogan said he finds “very odd.”
“I do think there’s an inconsistency there,” Huff agreed.
The two moved on to talking about the curious origins of Christianity, and Rogan asked Huff, “So what is your personal belief when it comes to the resurrection?”
“So as a historian, I do think it is a historical question,” Huff replied. “You have a guy who objectively lived, he objectively died, and then individuals close to his inner circle claim that they see him not dead.”
“This is a highly unusual activity,” Rogan said, as Huff agreed.
“It’s hard,” Rogan continued, “when you’re dealing with illiterate populations. You’re dealing with thousands of years of time. You’re dealing with an oral tradition, and then you have us sitting here talking about it in 2024.”
“It’s very difficult for anybody who thinks of themselves as an intelligent person,” he said, “who’s secular, to even entertain the possibility that someone died and [came] back to life.”
