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7 Things Bad Leaders Say to Themselves and to Their Team

But my first attempt to launch into the leadership interview space went nowhere. I was so excited about the idea of facilitating great interviews for leaders. Back then, I even did video.

But nobody watched them. So I embedded the videos in blog copy as well. And guess what? My leadership interviews were my least read posts.

It was an abject failure.

Then I relaunched the idea as an audio podcast.

For those of you who are curious, here’s my first video interview with Frank Bealer on YouTube. Five years after I uploaded it, it has something like eight views.

Now, here’s my latest podcast with Frank on Episode 242 of my Leadership Podcast. Three weeks after airing, it has 21,000 listens.

So what’s the difference between the two?

First time: Good idea. Bad timing, format and execution.

Second time: Good idea. Better format, timing and execution.

See the difference?

If you don’t learn to fail, you’ll never truly succeed. As Winston Churchill said, success is moving from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm.

Exactly.

This article originally appeared here.