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Glenn Packiam: How Pastors Can Develop Healthy Rhythms in Our ‘New Normal’

“If you set your course in a particular direction and you drift a little bit, you at least won’t be that far off. But if you don’t set a course, you’re going to be adrift. And so I think even the idea of intentionality…it’s not performance-driven at all. It’s meant to say, ‘Lord, let me aim my heart in a direction.’”

“I think to an exhausted pastor, to an exhausted church leader, maybe the most important [practice] is the examen applied over the last year.”

“The best gift you could give yourself, your spouse, your church, is to give yourself that time, five hours, eight hours, whatever it can be, to take that little assessment by reviewing the season you’ve just come out of.”

“There is a hunger on two fronts. And the first front is I’m seeing a hunger for relationships among pastors.”

“Different vocations have different challenges. But one of the challenges of spiritual leadership is it’s very hard to disassociate yourself from that role…when you carry the weight of spiritual leadership, wherever you are in a community, people can’t not see you as carrying that role.”

“There is a hunger for the presence of God, for God to do something beyond what we can.”

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“Resilience at the end of the day is not grit…resilience, like resurrection, is something that we receive, not something that we achieve. It’s a work of grace. It’s a work of the Holy Spirit.”

“For pastors and church leaders, almost all our relationships are asymmetrical, but we’re on the top. And we need to reverse that every now and again.”

“I have to embrace the discipline of saying no to things. I have to embrace the discipline of the ordinary, you know, and those are particular vices or temptations for me. And I suspect for almost every church leader, the kind of gifts that draw you into leadership are also the kind of gifts that make you prone to that sort of addiction.”

“Maybe the most powerful thing we can do as leaders is to embrace the humility of submitting yourself.”

“You don’t get health without humility, and you don’t get that without the risk of some vulnerability.”