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Matt Walsh Debates Gender Identity on ‘Dr. Phil’; Other Guests Report Feeling Attacked

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Pictured: Dr. Phil guest named Addison (left), Matt Walsh (right). Screengrabs from YouTube.

Political commentator Matt Walsh has been making waves on social media for a recent appearance on the Dr. Phil show, wherein he debated gender identity with a couple who both identify as non-binary.

Since his appearance, Walsh has shared a number of tweets about his experience on the show and his interactions with the couple, named Addison and Ethan. Addison shared via Instagram that the couple felt attacked. 

Walsh, who describes himself as a “theocratic fascist, bestselling children’s author,” is host of “The Matt Walsh Show” podcast on The Daily Wire and has authored three books, including “Johnny the Walrus,” a parable for children about gender identity wherein a child is pressured to go to extraordinary lengths to live out his fantasy of being a walrus.

During the panel discussion, Dr. Phil asked if Walsh thought there was a “construct” for those who identify with a gender other than the one they were assigned at birth based on their genitalia. 

“Well, that’s got nothing to do with the realities. You can feel however you want. I mean, I could sit here and say that I feel like a tomato plant, but that doesn’t actually mean that I am those things,” Walsh said as he sat opposite two people who identify as transgender and non-binary. “You can have whatever self-perceptions you want. But you can’t expect me to take part in that self-perception or to take part in this kind of charade, this theatrical production.”

“You don’t get your own pronouns, just like you don’t get your own prepositions or your own adjectives,” Walsh continued. “You know, it’s like if I were to tell you, ‘My adjectives are handsome and brilliant, and whenever you’re talking about me, you have to describe me as handsome and brilliant, because that’s how I identify.’ It makes no sense. You don’t get your own pronouns. That’s grammar; that’s language.” 

Dr. Phil then asked if Walsh thought identifying as transgender was delusional, to which Walsh replied, “Yeah, I think it’s delusion. It could be mental illness. It’s a lot of different things.”

“Wow,” Addison interjected. 

“When it’s with children, there’s also just a basic confusion that kids have,” Walsh went on to say. “That’s why when you hear someone, a parent, say, ‘Well, my four year-old son came to me and said that “I’m a girl now” and so I’m going to raise him as a girl.’ You’re a four year-old!” 

Walsh went on to argue that when a young boy says that he identifies as a girl, what he really means is that he wants to do certain things that girls do, such as play with doll houses.

“That’s fine. Play with the doll house,” Walsh said. “But you’re still a boy.” 

Then turning toward Addison and Ethan, Walsh said, “And that’s a question I’d like to throw out to other members of the panel actually, because, just like the four year-old can’t answer the question ‘what is a girl,’ well, this is one of the problems with this left wing gender ideology…no one who espouses it can even tell you what these words mean. It’s like, what is a woman? Can you tell me what a woman is?”