“When you realize this biblical narrative of sexuality," says Dr. Juli Slattery, "you realize we all fall short.”
“To have your soul constantly be in self-defense mode, to constantly be trying to convince other people that you do in fact love Jesus," says Dr. Gregory Coles, "takes away energy that would be better invested in actually loving Jesus.”
“Evangelical theology is not so much really affecting Christian nationalism," says Dr. Timothy Keller. "Christian nationalism is recruiting in a major way from evangelicals and using us.”
In our series on Christian Nationalism, host Jason Daye talks with Dr. Timothy Keller, Franklin Graham, Dr. Samuel Perry, and Dr. Glenn Packiam. You won't want to miss a single episode.
“There’s a lot of evil in our country today," says Rev. Franklin Graham, "and that’s why it’s so important for us as Christians to stand for the Word of God and not compromise on God’s Word."
“The view that you can be a Christian and a nationalist or hardcore into these beliefs about God favoring one country over another," says Rev. Dr. Glenn Packiam, "is not sustainable by a close reading of the New Testament.”
“When we talk about Christian nationalism," says Dr. Samuel Perry, "we’re talking about an ideology that idealizes and advocates a fusion of American civic life with a very particular kind of Christianity.”
"I feel like a lot of people are reading the Bible in standard definition," says Rabbi Jason Sobel, "because they don’t know how the Old and the New Testaments connect. And when you connect the dots, the Bible comes alive."
“We got a word from the Lord that he wanted us to pastor," says CeCe Winans, "and we were like, ‘That could not be the Lord'...And then we just started getting prophecies everywhere we went.”
“What people need," says Karl Vaters, "is familiarity and relationships. They need to be in places that they know with people that they know and love.”
"When there’s so much uncertainty," says Ryan Wakefield, "go back to the things we can be certain about. We can be certain about the kingdom of God and the local church and the good news. And we can be certain that that type of ministry flows out of relationships.”
"More and more pastors shared with us," says Jimmy Dodd, "that there was really no place to go just to be honest about their lives."
"I've always felt unqualified," says Steven Furtick, "and I discovered it puts me in pretty good company."
“God wants believers to cause other believers to love him more," says Francis Chan. “Are we producing lovers of Jesus and each other so much that the world notices?”
"Being a pastor," says Eugene H. Peterson, "for so many people, is competitive. And when you're competitive, you're a lot more interested in winning than helping."
"Women are becoming frustrated as disciples," says Aimee Byrd. Part of the problem, she believes, is the church's misunderstanding of the idea of "biblical" manhood and womanhood.
"For those outside [the church], our unity is a very important witness," says Dr. Timothy Keller. Without true tolerance, however, we will remain polarized.
"One of the biggest mistakes you can make in life," says Ian Morgan Cron, "is to assume that your way of seeing the world is normal."
"I feel like we’re fighting to keep people in the Kingdom," says Skillet's John Cooper. "Young people are so confused...we are in a life and death urgent situation—I believe that with all my heart."
"Standing in the pulpit is nothing to play with," says former Major League Baseball player Darryl Strawberry. "The devil will put a choke hold on you. He will strangle you if you're not equipped. I learned that early when I got into ministry."