Rhett added, “The thing that has helped me with that is, man, everybody’s just doing the best that they can.” Although evil people—including abusers—sometimes find their way into churches, he said, “they find their way into everything.”
Rhett and Link also discussed music, after a caller who deconstructed said she finds praise songs “very triggering.” The pair talked about the emotional connections behind music, with Rhett saying the right worship song can still deeply move him.
Link, who served as a worship leader, faced a crisis while “trying to conjure up sincerity” about what he was singing. “I would simulate it from stage,” he said, “and that made me feel like a complete fake.”
At the end of the conversation, Rhett called out Christians for caring so much about government, politics, and policy. “This isn’t consistent with what I see Jesus saying,” he said, “because…the kingdoms of the world, they come and go.” He described his switch from thinking “God’s got a plan” to thinking “the buck stops with me.”
“I don’t believe that there is an all-loving, all-knowing God who’s got everything in control,” Rhett added. “[Humans have] got to figure out how to work together.”