Stanley continued, “As it is written, it leaves the impression that we, and specifically Debbie Causey and I, were accessories to her abuse.” But, Stanley said, “as you’re about to discover, that’s not the case.”
North Point’s pastor explained that if they had been aware of Joiner’s alleged abuse and that he wasn’t a “safe person,” Stanley and his wife, Sandra, would never have “allowed” their daughter Allison to “teach and record content at the ReThink offices or at the Orange offices, or to travel alone to Wrightsville to speak at Reggie’s camp.”
After Allison read the the survivor’s story on Strickland’s site, she texted her father and shared that she told her husband, Clay, that “if [my father] had known about that stuff, [he] wouldn’t have let me within 100 miles of him.”
Kendra Fleming Claims the Survivor ‘Gave No Indication’ Anything ‘Serious’ Was Taking Place Between the Survivor and Joiner
In the video, Fleming’s account of Joiner’s cell phone records was different than that of the survivor’s. When Fleming and Stanley questioned the survivor regarding the late night texts she had received from Joiner’s phone, she, like Joiner said as well, “acknowledged the late night texting and connected it to an issue with Reggie son,” who at the time was a classmate of the survivor.
Fleming provided a detailed recollection of how she obtained knowledge of Joiner’s questionable cell phone activity. An administrator who worked for Joiner showed Fleming Joiner’s cell phone bill that had “dozens of late night texts to a number that I knew was not Reggie’s wife.” Fleming then confronted Joiner about it, but he excused the texts as messages his son had made to the son’s “girlfriend.”
“Since I had identified the recipients of the text, I knew this individual was a friend of Reggie’s children. I believed him when he told me that this was Reggie’s son’s girlfriend,” Fleming continued.
Fleming then explained that she didn’t share Joiner’s cell phone bill with Stanley until she noticed the same pattern take place the following month. “A month later, another phone bill belonging to Reggie was brought to me, same pattern, same number. This time,” she said, “I took it directly to Andy and shared the name of the person on the other end of the text stream.” Stanley requested a meeting with the young woman.
“She gave no indication that anything more serious was going on,” Fleming said. “If she had, we would have responded immediately, and because of the age difference and his position, we would have held Reggie 100% responsible.”
Fleming went on to explain that when Stanley confronted Joiner, “Reggie claimed that he was trying to help her [the survivor] and his son a navigate a difficult situation.” Fleming recalled Stanley telling Joiner that “his behavior was inappropriate, regardless of the subject matter, that it must cease.”
Immediately following the meeting, Fleming said that Causey continued to “meet with the young woman weekly for a while, and then more occasionally.” And according to Fleming, Causey and the survivor “stayed in touch up until this present time.”
