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Life Is the ‘First Human Right’—Lila Rose Defends the Pro-Life Position on ‘Dr. Phil’

Rose said that the pro-life position is that all humans have human rights, the most basic of which is the right not be killed. “Nancy, you deserve better,” said Rose, who added that instead of abortion, Nancy could have benefited from perinatal hospice and palliative care.

Guests and audience members also discussed the 10-year-old girl in Ohio who became pregnant after being raped and who subsequently underwent an abortion. An audience member responded to Lila Rose’s position that an unborn child should not be killed, even if that child is the result of the rape of a 10-year-old, telling Rose, “You just want to legislate evil, that’s really how it feels when I hear you speak.” Requiring a 10-year-old to bring a baby to term is “disgusting,” said the woman, adding, “There is nothing you could possibly say to justify that level of lack of empathy.”

Abortion is devastating to women’s mental health, no one talks about that,” said Rose, who also said, “We should not take out generational sin on a child.” The woman countered that it is traumatic for a child to be raped and forced to carry a pregnancy to term and that the debate is about human rights, not sin. When Rose stated that the most basic human right is the right to life and that children are the most vulnerable people in society, the woman disagreed and said “the poorest” are the weakest.

Other audience members voiced their opinions, including one woman who supported the pro-life position. A man in the back of the audience said he was concerned by “government-mandated pregnancy.” Several people spoke at once in response, including the first woman who said that “motherhood is slavery,” and Rose, who said that no one is forcing anyone to get pregnant.

“I get really nervous when the government gets into people’s personal lives,” said McGraw. “I really don’t think the government needs to be telling people what they should do with their bodies.”

McGraw wrapped the show by saying the conversation would continue in a future episode.