“So my question is, who am I truly with? With all of my heart, all of my soul, all of my mind, all of my strength, all of my wealth, everything I have, it’s his,” Copeland said.
He continued to read:
There’s no man that has left house, brethren, sisters, father, mother, wife, children, lands for my sake and the gospels, but shall receive a hundredfold now in this time, houses, brethren, sisters, mothers, children, lands with persecutions, and in the world to come, eternal life.
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“Well, certainly it’s going to be with persecutions. The one thing the devil fights is financial ability to do whatever God tells you to do. [Satan] fights it,” said Copeland. “He writes dirty books about you, which I have experienced—the Lord said don’t read about yourself in any publication anymore, including social media.”
Crawford said, “You mentioned that the danger is that [the rich young ruler] loved his money more than he loved God. I think that’s one of the reasons why it’s hard for me personally to wrap my mind around that prosperity message is because it has a lot to do with the finances.”
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“I’ve personally seen—and I bet you have too—seen money destroy people,” Crawford said. “How can we as as believers show people who don’t know Jesus at all that he is the prize, because that can be attractive, having the benefits of blessing?”
Copeland answered by sharing a series of stories of helping people in financial need.
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As the two-hour mark neared, Crawford engaged Copeland in a discussion regarding the dangerous attractiveness of the prosperity gospel.
“The thing that’s more attractive to people about this prosperity, health, and wealth message is those things rather than Jesus,” Crawford said.
He contrasted that with his own faith journey, emphasizing that obedience wasn’t motivated by blessing but by devotion. “I didn’t step out because I wanted some benefits and blessings,” Crawford said. “I stepped out because I wanted Jesus himself.”
