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“It’s undeniable," says Jay Kim, "that this time has rehabituated and reformed us as people in a variety of ways."

"It’s not a little side thing that we’re doing," says DJ Soto. "This is the body of Christ in the metaverse.”

“I like to frame up the conversation about racial reconciliation with just reconciliation," says Dr. Doug Logan, Jr., "because that's what we've been given.”

“You can't just move to the intimate act of reconciliation in the midst of a severe fight," says Dennae Pierre. "We have to have ways to help remind each other to be still. ‘Be still and know that I am God.’"

“I grieve whenever I hear that Christians are persecuted around the world," says Raymond Chang. "The same thing happens along racial lines. That same sort of collective pain transfers over to the people within your pews and in your congregations.”

In our podcast series, "Race and the Church," we take on a difficult, complex topic and explore how the church can lead the way in pursuing true racial reconciliation and solidarity.

“I think in the racial conversation, we do need to shift the conversation just from reconciliation to solidarity," says John Onwuchekwa, "and I think that’s what you see in Acts 6. You don't get unity by talking about unity.”

"We are nowhere near as ready for the things that we think we're ready for," says Christine Caine. "So God has to prepare us for the thing he has already prepared for us.”