The actor said that the process of writing the book about his sister, 50 years after her death, helped him to forgive himself.
“What role did faith have in bringing you to where you are now?” Arroyo asked. “And when was he furthest from you, do you think?”
“Well, right after Karen died,” Grammer answered. He was angry and upset but said that finding a profession helped him.
Arroyo said he read something about Grammer being in a baseball field and questioning where God had been. Grammar explained that after he made “Jesus Revolution,” Laurie invited him to a Harvest Crusade. Harvest Crusades take place annually and are “large-scale evangelistic events that create a welcoming environment to share the life-changing message of the gospel.”
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The events are often held at Angel Stadium in Anaheim, California, and Grammer commented that the name of the stadium was “kind of ironic.” When there was an invitation for people to come down to the front and invite God into their lives, Grammer’s daughter Faith encouraged him: “Let’s go down.”
It was then that the actor asked God, “Where were you?” and heard the response, “I was right there.”
Grammer said this experience happened a “couple more times” while he was writing the book.
He also said he heard from Karen herself while visiting where she used to live at her college. The actor said that when he put his hand on a banister, he heard her say, “I was here.”
“That was really nice,” he said. “But then on the return trip from that was when I really had the sort of epiphany, with a conversation sitting on a plane and the voice basically said, ‘Don’t you think it’s time for you to give it up?’”
Grammer became emotional again. Arroyo asked if that was Karen’s voice or God’s.
“God’s,” said Grammer. “Jesus.”
He responded that he had carried the burden “this long” and could “still handle it. It’s mine.” But the voice said, “No, it’s mine. It’s why I came.”
Grammer said he wanted people who read his book who had “suffered a similar consequence…to know that I had a credential that was genuine, that whatever pain they have felt, mine was the same and that we can share that in the misery of it.”
“We get to share the fact that we had a joyous time with [our loved ones], in whatever short amount it was, or even long,” said Grammer. “If you’ve lost somebody you love like that and you love them with your whole heart, to lose them is never an easy thing and to cherish them and remember them…”
“And that God is waiting for you,” Arroyo interjected. “And he will take that pain from you—he’ll hold it with you.
Grammer agreed. “Well, that was really it, you know,” he said. “Sort of, abide with me. Yeah.”
Watch this clip where Kelsey Grammer—best known for Frasier and for portraying Chuck Smith in Jesus Revolution—talks about his experience attending a Harvest Crusade. pic.twitter.com/XOS5mv3KYX
— Greg Laurie (@greglaurie) March 9, 2026
