A debate between a woman who identifies as a witch and atheist and a man who is a pastor has gained some traction on TikTok. In his response video, the pastor addresses the argument that prayer is fighting God’s will and is therefore contradictory.
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Response Video From Pastor Challenges ‘Prayer Is a Contradiction’
In a TikTok video posted Sept. 14, Jordan Dwayne, who goes by “Jordan the Grey Witch,” addressed a comment left by one of her followers, which said: “Prayer is a contradiction. God has a plan for you, but you want him to change it for you whenever you feel like it?”
“Thank you for bringing this up because I’ve been wanting to talk about this for a while now,” said Dwayne. “If your God—all-knowing, all-powerful, omnipotent God—made all of us by his own hand, he created us exactly the way that we are—that’s what you believe, right? If your God made me into the atheist that I am and he gave me the free will to believe or to disbelieve, when you ‘pray for me,’ asking God to save me, how is that not a contradiction of your own God’s will to have created me exactly the way that I am?…Why are you so arrogant to believe that you know better than your own God?”
One follower commented, “I’ve asked so many Christians this and have never had a straight answer.” Dwayne replied, “They never do.”
User Bekka Santos tagged Robin Schultz in the comments of the video, asking for Schultz’s input on Dwayne’s challenge. Schultz, whose profile describes him as a “software engineer by day, pastor by night,” regularly posts videos giving input on theological topics. He stitched Dwayne’s video to his own, posting a response video on Oct. 4 replying to Dwayne’s comments in segments.
Schultz first took issue with Dwayne saying “your God.” “You don’t have to say ‘your God,’” he said. “It’s just ‘God.’” After each of Dwayne’s descriptors, “all-knowing, all-powerful, omnipotent God,” Schultz said, “Uh-huh,” “Right again,” and “We’re three for three.”
To Dwayne’s statement that God created all people “exactly the way that we are—that’s what you believe, right?” Schultz said, “No.” Citing Scripture, he explained that God created people in his image, but that because of sin, we don’t live the way God intends for us to live. “We were not created to lie, cheat, to steal, to murder,” said Schultz, who went on to say that God did not make Dwayne an atheist. That was her decision. He quoted Romans 1 and Psalm 14 to support this point.
Schultz then took issue with Dwayne’s statement that “God made me into the atheist that I am and he gave me the free will to believe or to disbelieve.”