“That’s the point of becoming a Christian: to remember, to put back together again who you are,” Brand said. “My whole life’s a trial. And it’s not culminating, because there will be a life after it, whether it’s in jail or not. But in that trial, in the hardest times, I’ve found [God].”
Several times, Morgan asked Brand about what denomination of Christian he is. The question made Brand agitated. At one point, after being pressed about changes in belief from atheism to Buddhism to Christianity, Brand responded by accusing Morgan of “doing water carrying for Satan.”
“That’s what we’re talking about, Piers,” said Brand. “Water carrying—the fallenness in this world. The fallenness.” Putting his hand on Morgan’s shoulder, Brand continued, “Satan is the epitomizing object of the realness of evil. That evil is not some abstract moral idea.”
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“Who’s the Satan I’ve been carrying water for?” Moran inquired. Brand responded, “I suppose—and I’m trying not, I don’t mean to be mean—it’s the institutions of media power and how they interact and operate with government.”
Brand referenced Morgan’s coverage of the COVID-19 pandemic and wars in the Middle East before saying, “But more importantly, more importantly, right now, right now, that there’s a chance for us to—even when like I sort of take my own advice…and just sort of sit and chill, that you sort of revert to kind of, ‘He was an atheist. He was a Buddhist.’”
“And I can’t see that as a good-faith inquiry,” Brand said. “I see it as an attempt to generate an outcome and to kind of create a kind of hysteria, whether that’s in this room with me or sort of more broadly among people.”
When Morgan again asked Brand about how Brand would respond if God’s plan for his life is to go to prison, Brand said, “Then I’ll drink the cup. That’s the deal we’ve got. That’s the deal we’ve got, Piers. And how will you feel on your judgment day? How will you feel on your judgment day? Because it’s outside of time. It’s here now. And it’s forever.”
“I don’t think I’m especially important or that I have any unique or novel insights. I’ve just had a really unusual life,” Brand went on to say. Picking up a copy of his new book to show it to the camera, he continued, “And I’ve written this book. And the key thing about this book is ‘Becoming Christian’ is a consolidation of all the mad musings of a mind that was embedded in and wedded to the culture.”
“Coming to Christ is like you’re exposed to a deep reality that is beautiful and available,” Brand added.
