How can the Church live out the hope of heaven on earth? N.T. Wright joins Jason Daye to explore the powerful, unifying vision of Ephesians and what it means for ministry and life today.
How can the Church embody biblical unity in a divided world and reflect heaven on earth by participating in God’s redemptive plan?
In this episode of “FrontStage BackStage,” host Jason Daye welcomes Dr. N. T. Wright, one of the world’s foremost New Testament scholars and author of “The Vision of Ephesians.” Together, they explore how Paul’s letter calls believers to a renewed imagination of heaven and earth united in Christ and how that vision shapes both our present mission and future hope.
They discuss how Ephesians invites us to engage Scripture honestly, to resist bending it to fit our assumptions, and to rediscover the unity, renewal, and purpose God intends for his people. Dr. Wright shares practical ways he seeks personal refreshment, offers insights on the temptation to treat heaven as escapism, and reflects on how the Church can embody God’s reconciling work in divisive times.
They discuss:
- Why Ephesians offers a “visionary letter” for the Church today
- How heaven and earth unite in God’s redemptive plan
- The difference between escapism and participation in God’s renewal
- What true biblical unity looks like in a divided world
- How Scripture shapes leaders who live out the gospel in daily ministry
This conversation invites pastors, ministry leaders, and believers alike to see Ephesians, not as distant theology, but as a living invitation to join God’s ongoing work of renewal, reflect his unity, and live faithfully in anticipation of heaven and earth made one in Christ.
FrontStage BackStage Podcast With NT Wright
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