Ministry can be meaningful and heavy at the same time. In this episode of FrontStage BackStage, Jason Daye sits down with Bob Goff for a deeply honest, pastoral conversation about what it means to walk with Jesus when ministry feels heavy.
Rather than focusing on performance, platforms, or productivity, Bob invites pastors and ministry leaders to return to closeness with Jesus, formation over information, and practices that keep faith grounded in real life.
Together, they explore:
- Why ministry often crowds out intimacy with Jesus
- How insecurity and pressure quietly shape leaders
- The difference between agreeing with Jesus and actually following him
- Why formation matters more than more content
- How small, faithful practices can reshape the way we live and lead
- What encouragement pastors need when they feel tired, discouraged, or uncertain
About Bob Goff
Bob Goff is a New York Times bestselling author, speaker, and longtime advocate for living out a practical, love fueled faith. He is the author of several books, including his latest release, “A Journey with Jesus,” an interactive guide that invites readers to experience the life and teachings of Jesus through Scripture, story, and filmed experiences from the Holy Land.
This conversation is especially for pastors and ministry leaders who:
- Love Jesus deeply but feel stretched thin
- Are navigating pressure, expectations, and constant noise
- Long to stay spiritually grounded without burning out
- Want to lead from authenticity rather than obligation
FrontStage BackStage exists to care for the whole life of ministry leaders, both the public FrontStage and the personal BackStage, because healthy ministry flows from a healthy, well tended soul. If ministry feels heavy right now, this conversation is for you.
FrontStage BackStage Podcast With Bob Goff
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