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After Exiting the Christian Music Industry, These Artists Engage Religion on Their Terms

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People participate in the Mystic Hymnal Songwriter’s retreat, organized by Michael Gungor, at the Glen Eyrie Retreat Center in Colorado Springs, Colorado, in late Sept. 2024. (Photo courtesy Michael Gungor)

(RNS) — When former Christian artist Michael Gungor first hosted a new spiritual community in Los Angeles this year, worship began not with an organ blast or sermon series video promo, but with blowing bubbles.

Appropriately dubbed “Play,” Gungor envisioned the event — which featured painting, dancing, corporate singing and meditation, but no religious creed — as a celebration that “redefines worship.”

“I want to be in a room and see each other’s eyes and smell each other and hear each other singing out of key. This is something we’ve always done as a species,” Gungor said. “I think there’s something important, really grounding and human about it.”

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Gungor’s idea of worship wasn’t always so experimental. In packed churches and concert venues, thousands once sang along to the band Gungor’s 2010 hit “Beautiful Things,” a song that became a permanent fixture on the setlists of youth group bands. But in 2014, Gungor’s critiques of the Christian music industry — as well as his public musings on Genesis as a poem rather than historic fact — led to his exclusion from the Christian music business. Now, after a long process of wrestling with his inherited evangelical faith — documented on his podcast “The Liturgists” — Gungor says he’s more interested in embracing the current lived moment than being tethered to a set of religious beliefs, though he describes Christianity as his “native tongue.”

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For those like him who have “deconstructed” — a popular term today for the process of questioning and sometimes letting go of the teachings of one’s faith tradition — Gungor still sees a desire for ritual and for communal gathering. He recognizes the power of the collective — and aims to write non-dogmatic music for corporate, if not religious, worship.

“We’ve gotten rid of some of the shame-based stuff and some of the dogmas that were oppressing and hurting a lot of us, but now we’re kind of just wandering around alone … What are we missing? Is there anything we can find back here?”

In the last two decades, several Contemporary Christian Music powerhouses — Audrey Assad, DC Talk’s Kevin Max, Hawk Nelson’s Jon Steingard, among several others — have publicly exited the CCM industry. For many of these musicians, questioning the industry’s theological parameters meant becoming unwelcome in mainstream CCM spaces. Years later, after interrogating their beliefs, a handful of these onetime CCM artists are revisiting faith in some fashion, trying on elements they’d previously discarded and writing music for listeners who might be more spiritual than religious. In many ways, these artists’ break from institutional Christianity and hunger for a broader form of belonging exemplifies national religious trends.

One of the earliest CCM artists to publicly depart the industry was Jennifer Knapp, who burst onto the Christian music scene with her debut album “Kansas” in 1998. But while Knapp was drawn to Christianity’s teachings on human dignity and divine love, she soon realized that the Christianity promoted in the CCM world drew hard lines around who belonged, and who didn’t. Her lyrics about the Christ’s humanity and questions about the necessity of substitutionary atonement — the idea that Jesus died as a substitute for humanity — began to draw criticism.

“I was already getting critiqued at the time and being basically told you weren’t a Christian anymore,” said Knapp. “And then I was like, oh, well, I’m wondering what you guys are going to think about my sexual orientation.”

In 2002, Knapp “pushed the eject button” on the Christian music scene and her faith. When she returned in 2010, it was as an openly gay musician no longer publishing music under the Christian banner.

Jennifer Knapp in 2024. (Courtesy photo)

For longtime Bethel Music recording artist William Matthews, it was in part the rigid homogeneity of the Christian Music industry that ultimately led him to walk away. Raised in a Black Church of God context, he came to Christian music by way of spontaneous worship models promoted by Morningstar Ministries in Charlotte, North Carolina, and the International House of Prayer in Kansas City, Missouri. Though skeptical about the existence of hell, Matthews, who spent his evenings watching Bill O’Reilly on Fox News, largely felt at home in the prophetic corner of the Christian music world. In the early 2010s, he led worship at the conferences of charismatic leader Lance Wallnau, now known for his pro-Trump prophecies.

But by 2015, Williams found non-violent Christian theology a more compelling approach. He watched as anti-immigrant rhetoric and opposition to the Black Lives Matter movement reached a fever pitch in evangelical circles and grew frustrated with what he saw as the Christian music industry’s “conservative bias.” After spending nearly 15 years thinking he’d been bridging cultures as one of the only Black people in white-majority evangelical spaces, he was shattered to discover that many of those he’d grown close to seemed ambivalent toward racism.

“That led me to really walk away from Christian music,” said Matthews.

He attributes the CCM industry’s apparent conservative slant to its target audience of “white, suburban, Midwest or Southern moms.” In catering to that demographic, Christian radio executives and Christian bookstores are known to censor songs or albums that cross conservative theological or political boundaries.

The Mystic Hymnal Songwriter’s retreat at the Glen Eyrie Retreat Center in Colorado Springs, Colorado, in late Sept. 2024. (Photo courtesy Michael Gungor)

“What the CCM industry, or Christian music, is selling is security,” said musician Derek Webb, founding member of the Christian rock band Caedmon’s Call. “The people who run or appear to be gatekeeping the CCM industry are not doing that as a means of holding some kind of moral plumb line.” Webb believes the pushback usually has more to do with a company’s bottom line than personal convictions.

Controversial Pastor Doug Wilson Subject of New Podcast, ‘Sons of Patriarchy’

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(RNS) — Doug Wilson, a self-described Christian nationalist pastor with a talent for turning his controversial positions into literal hot takes — see his burning sofa videos and other flamethrower stunts — has built a media empire larger than might be expected for a bearded, 71-year-old Reformed Christian theologian based in remote Moscow, Idaho.

But his anti-LGTBQ+ rhetoric, his discussion of the Bible as condoning benevolent slavery and his traditionalist ideas about gender have attracted just the right kind of criticism to boost his audience among a certain set of conservative Christians. Wilson logs it all in a self-curated “Controversy Library” of dustups attributed to him over the last few decades.

But according to the creators of the new podcast “The Sons of Patriarchy,” it’s not just Wilson’s culture war provocations that are cause for concern, but what people take from his theology and politics. “Abuse in churches, in marriages, in families, under clergy, is part and parcel of this movement,” claimed the podcast’s host, Peter Bell. “It’s undergirded by the patriarchal submission, authority, obedience.”

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In response to questions about the podcast, Wilson pointed RNS to a letter from his attorneys that the pastor said was “generated in an earlier inning of this same baseball game.”

Wilson said in a separate email to RNS, “Given the tone, the topic, and the familiar voices, I expect that “Sons of Patriarchy” will consist of recycled (and refuted) defamation and slander.”

Pastor Doug Wilson. (Video screen grab)

According to Bell, the podcast plans to feature roughly 50 stories involving abuse allegations, most of which he said will be made public for the first time. The podcast’s creators don’t accuse Wilson personally of any physical or sexual abuse but maintain that abuse is routinely mishandled in churches that Wilson has led or influenced, as well as other Reformed and Baptist churches that have been shaped by his teachings.

For the new podcast, Bell has teamed with Examining Doug Wilson & Moscow, a group of anonymous researchers that has kept up a social media campaign critical of Wilson for the past decade. “They’re credited as assistant producers of the series, and the ones who fed me all the interviews and have extensive connections to almost all the survivors that I talked to,” said Bell, who didn’t disclose the group members’ names, citing safety reasons.

The podcast will include input from a range of theologians, historians and religious figures, including Christianity Today Editor-in-Chief Russell Moore, New York Times columnist David French, historians Kristin Kobes Du Mez and Beth Allison Barr, as well as Rachael Denhollander, an attorney and anti-abuse activist who was among the victims of Gymnastics USA doctor Larry Nassar.

A Reformed Christian himself, Bell is a writer and podcaster who said he first “drank the Kool-Aid” of masculine Christianity as a member of Mark Driscoll’s Mars Hill Huntington Beach campus in the early 2010s. Years later, as an intern at a Reformed church in eastern Washington state, a two-hour drive from Moscow, he said he encountered accounts of abuse from former members of Wilson’s Christ Church.

As Bell met more people from the schools and churches linked to Wilson, he said he began to hear reports of marital rape, child abuse, pedophilia, spiritual abuse and grooming. According to Bell, allegations also came from other churches in Wilson’s denomination, the Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches, and Reformed churches in other denominations that had adopted his thought.

“I didn’t know how big it was in these circles,” said Bell. “But I’d get emailed, texted or called almost daily by someone else who wanted to talk.”

5 Signs You’re Not Truly Following Christ

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Following Christ is a lifelong journey, requiring commitment, growth, and a willing heart. As Christians, we are called to become more like Christ in our thoughts, actions, and relationships, reflecting His love and truth. However, it’s possible to slip into patterns that reveal a lack of true discipleship, even while calling ourselves followers. Here are five signs that may indicate a need for a renewed commitment to walking closely with Christ.

5 Signs You’re Not Truly Following Christ

1. You Prioritize Worldly Success Over Spiritual Growth

One of the first signs that you may not be truly following Christ is when the pursuit of worldly success takes precedence over spiritual growth. Society often defines success by wealth, status, achievements, and material possessions, but Christ’s teachings center on seeking God’s kingdom above all (Matthew 6:33). When your thoughts, energy, and actions focus primarily on personal gain without considering your spiritual growth or how it impacts others, it’s worth examining your priorities.

Jesus cautioned against this when He said, “What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul?” (Matthew 16:26). A true follower of Christ seeks to live a life that glorifies God and values eternal things over temporary gains. Take a moment to assess where your treasure truly lies, as “where your treasure is, there your heart will be also” (Matthew 6:21).

2. Your Faith is Reserved for Sundays

A common misconception is that being a Christian means attending church services on Sundays. While gathering with other believers is vital, limiting your faith to a single day reflects a lack of true discipleship. Christ calls us to live out our faith daily, in everything we do, as He says, “Take up your cross daily and follow me” (Luke 9:23).

If you find yourself going through the motions on Sunday but not integrating Christ’s teachings into the rest of your week, it may indicate that your commitment is shallow. True discipleship involves constant connection with God, prayer, and a desire to align every aspect of your life with His will. Christ should be present in your actions, thoughts, and decisions every day, not just when you’re within church walls.

Consider spending time in daily devotions, praying, and studying the Bible to keep Christ at the forefront of your life, allowing your relationship with Him to influence how you treat others, make choices, and live your life.

3. You Hold Grudges and Resist Forgiving Others

Forgiveness is a central part of the Christian faith. Jesus taught us to forgive, as God has forgiven us (Ephesians 4:32). Holding grudges or harboring resentment toward others not only harms relationships but also creates a barrier between you and God. If you find it difficult to forgive others, it may be a sign that your heart is not aligned with Christ’s example.

Jesus’ own words remind us, “If you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins” (Matthew 6:15). A hardened heart towards forgiveness signals that we have not fully embraced the grace that has been freely given to us. Following Christ means allowing His love and mercy to soften our hearts, teaching us to extend that same grace to others. By forgiving, we emulate Christ’s love and break free from bitterness, healing relationships and drawing closer to God.

4. You’re Comfortable Living in Unrepentant Sin

None of us are perfect, and we all fall short of God’s standard. However, the difference between a true follower of Christ and someone only claiming Christianity lies in the attitude towards sin. A true disciple will feel convicted by sin and will seek God’s forgiveness and help to turn away from it. In contrast, if you find yourself living comfortably in sin, justifying your actions, or showing no desire to change, it indicates a serious spiritual disconnect.

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John writes, “If we claim to have fellowship with him and yet walk in darkness, we lie and do not live out the truth” (1 John 1:6). Living in unrepentant sin while calling oneself a Christian is contradictory to the message of Christ, who died to set us free from sin, not so we could continue in it.

Ask yourself: Do I feel genuine remorse for actions that go against God’s commands? Am I willing to let God transform my heart and change my ways? When we truly follow Christ, we welcome His correction and seek to live in a way that honors Him.

5. You Lack Compassion for Others

Jesus’ life and ministry were marked by compassion and a love that reached across boundaries. He cared deeply for the marginalized, the lost, and those rejected by society. When asked about the greatest commandment, He said, “Love the Lord your God with all your heart… and love your neighbor as yourself” (Matthew 22:37-39). Lacking compassion or ignoring the needs of others reflects a heart that may not be fully following Christ.

A true Christian sees others through the lens of God’s love, feeling called to serve and uplift those in need. Compassion is not merely a feeling; it’s an action, something we choose to live out daily. If you find it difficult to care for others or make excuses for not helping, it may be time to ask God for a heart that loves as He loves.

Consider small ways you can begin showing compassion today. Whether it’s lending a listening ear, volunteering, or simply offering encouragement, ask God to open your heart to others. True followers of Christ reflect His love by being a light to those around them.

Growing Closer to Christ

Following Christ is more than a label; it’s a way of life. Jesus calls us to a deep, meaningful relationship with Him that goes beyond mere words. It’s about transforming our hearts, minds, and actions to reflect His love, grace, and truth.

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If you recognize any of these signs in your own life, don’t be discouraged. We all go through seasons of spiritual dryness or distraction. The beauty of the Christian faith is that God’s love is constant, and His grace is always available to help us realign with His will. Take these signs as opportunities to draw closer to Him, renew your commitment, and ask for His guidance.

As you seek to truly follow Christ, remember to:

  • Pray for a deeper relationship with Him. Spend time in honest prayer, asking for His help in areas where you struggle.
  • Read and study the Bible. God’s Word offers the guidance and wisdom needed to live a Christ-centered life.
  • Join a community of believers. Surround yourself with others who encourage you and hold you accountable in your journey.
  • Embrace humility and a teachable spirit. True followers are willing to learn, grow, and change as God leads them.

Following Christ wholeheartedly requires daily surrender, but the reward is a life filled with purpose, peace, and joy in Him. May we all strive to be true followers, living lives that reflect the love and light of Christ to the world around us.

How to Lead a Dynamic Cell Meeting

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My best selling book is How to Lead a Great Cell Group Meeting So People Want To Come Back. Many chuckle at the phrase, “So People Want To Come Back,” and yes, we want people to come back. But getting people to come back to a cell meeting should never be the principal motivation. A much purer motivation is making sure each member is ministered to and transformed during the process. If transformation takes place, yes, they will come back. So what are key tips to ensure needs are met and people go away satisfied? Several come to mind:

How to Lead a Dynamic Cell Meeting

1. Emphasize the ice-breaker.

Many cell leaders minimize the icebreaker or don’t use it at all. I think this is unfortunate. A great icebreaker can get everyone talking and prepare people to enter into worship and the cell lesson. Remember that people have come from work, school, or household responsibilities. Most likely they are tired and thinking about other things. The ice-breaker opens up doors of communication and brings people together in a relaxed, informal manner. The icebreaker helps members to share transparently in a fun, free-flowing way.

2. Don’t neglect worship.

Many facilitators jump into the lesson after the icebreaker. Perhaps these cell leaders prize intellectual interaction more than spiritual experience. Yet we need to think of the needs of the cell members and not primarily the desires of the cell leader. Cell members need to grow in their faith and interact with God in a group setting. Worship in the cell group provides a time for members to minister to one another and to use their spiritual gifts. It also allows each person to interact with one another, rather than the leader dominating everything. What kind of worship am I referring to? It might be Bible reading, singing songs, popcorn praise and prayer,  praying for one another, and other creative ideas. There are a variety of ways to worship, but the key principle is to actually do it!

Hiring Cheap? Not so Fast . . .

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Sometimes, hiring cheap is the most expensive choice. The principle sounds wrong to some people, but it’s straightforward: You often save the most money by hiring the most expensive person. I know that’s a statement many people won’t believe, but I’ve seen it proven over and over again. When a designer, writer, filmmaker, video producer, web designer, or other creative professional starts competing with the lowest price, things go downhill fast.

Hiring Cheap? Not so Fast . . .

Obviously, you should evaluate a resume, portfolio, or demo reel – and everyone wants a good deal. But in most cases, “more expensive” also means more experiencetalentflexibility, and maturity.

Plus, no matter how cheap the original bid may be, it’s always more expensive to do it over.

The lesson? When hiring freelancers or vendors for your next project, don’t be immediately put off by what seems like a high price. Think about the total package and what each option brings to the table.

You rarely save money by automatically hiring the least expensive option.

 

This article about hiring cheap originally appeared here, and is used by permission. Phil Cooke works at the intersection of faith, media, and culture, and he’s pretty rare – a working producer in Hollywood with a Ph.D. in Theology. His client list has included studios and networks like Walt Disney, Dreamworks, and USA Network, as well as major Christian organizations from Voice of the Martyrs, The Museum of the Bible, The Salvation Army, The YouVersion Bible app, to many of the most respected churches in the country.

 

God Uses the Foolish To Change the World: Youth Ministry Thoughts

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Want an eye-opening look at how God uses the foolish to change the world? Wondering how that applies to youth ministry? Then keep reading for life-changing and world-changing insights from Greg Stier.

“I don’t know about all these teenagers running around here, acting like a bunch of fools!” —Margaret, charter member

“These youth leaders today are just playing all these foolish games with kids and making a mess of our church!” —George, head of the building committee

“Their music is too loud! Their lessons are too short! Youth ministry is unbiblical! We’re just producing a whole bunch of fools and foolishness!” —Jeb, that homeschool parent

“But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise…” —The Apostle Paul (1 Corinthians 1:27)

How God Uses the Foolish To Change the World

The Lord has a penchant for fools and foolishness. He chooses to use a foolish message (1 Corinthians 1:18). The Greek word for “foolishness” is “moria” and is where “moronic” comes from. In other words, God has a divine tendency to use what, to the world anyway, seems like a moronic message spoken through the lips of morons to advance his kingdom purposes.

Go through the Bible, and you’ll clearly see God’s leaning toward using people the world would label as fools to accomplish some of his biggest tasks. God chose to use a…

  • novice boat-builder named Noah to save the world from complete annihilation
  • young shepherd boy named David to establish the kingdom of Israel
  • beauty-pageant winner named Esther to save the Jews from destruction
  • fig-picking prophet named Amos to warn a nation headed for crisis
  • prejudiced preacher named Jonah to rescue a pagan people from judgment
  • determined cupbearer named Nehemiah to rebuild a broken city
  • cricket-eating, camel-fur wearing, water-drenched mad man named John the Baptist to prepare the way for Jesus

But of all God’s “foolish” choices, he uses a dozen or so disciples, comprised of fishermen, zealots, blue-collar workers, and even a tax-collector. And it’s to this unlikely rabble that Jesus hands the most important mission in history: the Great Commission. These fools are proof of how God uses the foolish to change the world!

What’s surprising to many is that most of the early disciples (excluding Peter) were just teenagers when they began following Jesus. According to Matthew 17:24-27, taxation was applicable only to those 20 and older.

If I’m reading that correctly, Jesus was a youth leader, with only one adult sponsor (Peter) and one really rotten kid named Judas Iscariot. But with that youth group, Jesus forever impacted humanity.

The Vital Role of Teens

I believe God wants to use an army of fools to, once again, change the world. And nothing is more foolish than teenagers. As goofy as they are (I have one myself), teens are cause-centric and connected. They want a mission that matters, and nothing matters more than the Gospel.

And teens have hundreds, if not thousands, of online and face-to-face friends they can influence. Wouldn’t it be just like Jesus to raise up an unlikely generation of teenagers to change the world again?

Youth leaders, whom church leaders often view as glorified babysitters and semi-godly game organizers, are also in a prime spot. God wants to use them to impact their churches and communities!

Creative Way to Teach the Crucifixion: A KidMin Object Lesson

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Need a creative way to teach the crucifixion? This visual object lesson about sin and forgiveness will stick in kids’ heads. Children will learn about the power of Jesus’ death on the cross for us.

Creative Way to Teach the Crucifixion

Was Jesus really the final sacrifice for our sins? Did he really take on all of our sin at the cross? These are big questions and often difficult concepts for children to wrap their minds around.

Help kids make sense of this with a Disappearing Sin object lesson. It’s especially perfect for visual learners (more than half the population).

Review my article about visual learners and how to teach these children most effectively. To sum it up, most children are visual learners, meaning they learn by seeing. This may be through pictures, videos, puppets, objects, or object lessons.

Get creative with your Sunday school class, and they’ll not only love you for it. They’ll also remember more of what you teach than ever before!

One creative way to teach about the crucifixion is to show how Jesus took on our sins.

How to Do This Crucifixion Object Lesson

Supplies:

  • a plate
  • a coin
  • a candle
  • matches (or lighter)
  • a cup of colored water (any color)
  • a clear drinking glass

Lecrae, Justin Giboney, Cory Ruth Discuss Morality in Politics and Voting for Policies Over People

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From left to right: Lecrae, Justin Giboney, Cory Ruth. Screengrabs from YouTube / @LecraeOfficial

Christian hip hop artist Lecrae hosted Justin Giboney, a Christian who affiliates with the Democratic Party, and Cory Ruth, a Christian who affiliates with the Republican Party, on “The Deep End With Lecrae” to hear their views on various questions related to the 2024 presidential election.

Giboney is an attorney and the co-founder and president of the AND Campaign. Ruth is an Atlanta city council member and executive in residence at Georgia State University. The two are “brilliant men” who “love God,” said Lecrae. He explained he wanted to have Giboney and Ruth on his podcast for a “nuanced, candid, cordial conversation from both sides of the political aisle.”

Lecrae, Justin Giboney, Cory Ruth Discuss Christians and Politics

In a conversation that spanned nearly two hours, Lecrae, Giboney and Ruth covered topics including whether Christians should vote, the guests’ views on presidential candidates Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, and globalization and the economy. 

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At one point, Lecrae asked Ruth, “How can you call yourself a Black man and a Republican?” The artist in turn asked Giboney, “How can you call yourself a Christian and a Democrat?” The three also discussed how Christians should assess candidates and political parties when casting their votes.  

Both Giboney and Ruth agreed that Christians ought to vote. According to Giboney, the decision of whether or not to vote is a “matter of stewardship.” However, he clarified he does not believe it is a sin not to vote, noting that sometimes people can make that choice “strategically.”

“A Democratic Republic relies on its citizens engaging and saying what they want,” said Ruth, adding that if Christians surrender that opportunity, they shouldn’t be surprised if the culture is “hostile to our faith…we have to be engaged.”

The three spent some time discussing the culture wars and why evangelicalism and the Republican Party are so closely affiliated, as well as why the Black church is so closely connected to the Democratic Party.

The guests agreed that it is important to have a Christian identity over a political one, with Giboney going so far as to say that a political party should not be part of someone’s identity nor should it say anything about a person’s faith. What is important, he said, is where people stand on the issues.

“These parties don’t care about your values,” said Ruth. What the parties care about is winning elections. “I used to say this all the time,” he added, “that the Republican Party would throw abortion stances under the bus if it meant winning an election. They just did that.”

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Browns’ Jameis Winston Credits ‘Unwavering Faith, Ultimate Belief [and] Dependence on the Lord’ for Underdog Win

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Cleveland Browns veteran quarterback Jameis Winston (30) used his pregame and postgame on-field interviews to proclaim his faith in Jesus.

Winston was the No. 1 overall pick by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the 2015 NFL Draft and won the Heisman Trophy as part of the Florida State Seminoles in 2013. Despite setting several franchise rookie records for the Buccaneers and leading the NFL in passing yards in 2019 with 5,109 yards, many believe Winston never lived up to the hype of his potential.

Following the expiration of his contract in 2019, Winston signed with the New Orleans Saints, where he played both as their starter and backup until signing a one-year deal with the Cleveland Browns this past off-season.

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For the first seven weeks of the season, Winston has been the Browns’ designated backup quarterback for Deshaun Watson.

But on Sunday (Oct. 27), Winston was given the chance to start again against the Baltimore Ravens after Watson suffered a season-ending injury to his right Achilles tendon.

Before the game, a sideline reporter noticed that Winston was relishing the moment of his first NFL start since 2022. She asked Winston, “What do you expect from yourself [during the game today]?”

“This is the day that the Lord has made. I will be glad and rejoice in it,” Winston responded.

The reporter then asked Winston, “You’re looking really focused right now. You told us this week that everyone inside this building believes that this is the time you guys can turn it around. What’s been the message?”

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Without hesitation, Winston replied, “Unwavering faith, ultimate belief, dependent on the Lord, that’s all we got.”

“You told me no nerves, just excitement and butterflies. Do you still feel that way?” she asked.

Dallas Jenkins Announces Release Date for Season 5 of ‘The Chosen’

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More than 200 million people have watched “The Chosen” and eagerly await the next season. The creative mastermind behind the series, Dallas Jenkins, announced that Season 5 will be released in theaters in April 2025. This time, there will be various ways to view the next set of episodes.

“I’m sure we’re all very excited,” Jenkins shared in a Facebook video.

Creator and Director Dallas Jenkins Announces ‘The Chosen,’ Season 5 Will Be in Theaters April 2025

For the last several years, the creators of “The Chosen” have set records for crowdfunding and number of views. “The Chosen” is free to watch on many streaming platforms and its own app—even within prison walls. Christians and seekers alike are intrigued at how the Scriptures are coming to life on the screen.

Jenkins shared, “The whole reason I do ‘The Chosen’ is to share with you what God is teaching me.”

Out of an expected total of seven seasons, the fifth season of “The Chosen” has been long anticipated by fans. In a recent livestream, Jenkins announced the release date of Season 5. “Drum roll,” he said, “I’m sure we’re all very excited.”

“We are happy to tell you that it is coming to theaters…to you early April 2025,” said Jenkins.

The release of Season 5 comes with viewing options. The “entire season” will be released in theaters, but “not exactly all at once,” he said.

Jenkins went on to explain that “at some point, if you want to spend an entire day watching the entire season,” you would have the option to do so. Specific details are being worked out on how episodes will be released.

For those looking for a specific release date, that is still to come. Jenkins said, “I don’t know exactly if it’s the first or second week just yet; we’re working out those details. It will be early April, so mark your calendars for that time.”

The entire season will be available in theaters early April and “all the way through the Easter season of 2025,” Jenkins said.

“I’ll be hard at work on that,” Jenkins said. “My team will be hard at work on that.”

This news comes after a rough and delayed streaming release of Season 4, including the separation of “The Chosen” from its original distributor, Angel Studios.

Alabama Church Mourns Pastor, Allegedly Shot and Killed By Adult Daughter

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Joy Tabernacle Full Gospel Church in Mobile, Alabama, is mourning the death of Pastor Robert Matthews. Police say the church leader was shot and killed last Sunday evening (Oct. 20) by his daughter, 36-year-old Charity Matthews. Twinetta Matthews, the pastor’s wife of almost 50 years, also was injured in that shooting.

According to court documents, Charity Matthews also allegedly shot her ex-boyfriend on Oct. 19. She has been charged with one count of murder, two counts of attempted murder, and reckless endangerment.

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Matthews, who is being held without bond, was undergoing mental-competency evaluations. The local district attorney said she could face the death penalty, if convicted.

Pastor Robert Matthews Was Fatally Shot

On Sunday, Oct. 20, police responded to reports of a shooting at a house in Mobile just before 8 p.m. They allege that Charity Matthews shot both of her parents, fatally injuring her dad, and then fled with her two young children. As of late last week, Charity’s mother, Twinetta Matthews, was recovering in the hospital.

Family friend Shavon Buchanan told a local news station there were “no words” to describe the tragedy. “It’s something that you would never expect,” she told Fox10TV. “It’s almost like living in a nightmare only because they are such a good family.”

Buchanan praised Pastor Robert Matthews as an excellent church leader, godly man, and loving husband and father. Her message to his family: “Stay strong, and I’m praying for you guys to have peace, and that God gives you peace that surpasses all understanding.”

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Buchanan added that she’s also praying for Charity Matthews, her longtime friend. “I know Charity was a loving person. I know she carried love in her heart,” said Buchanan. “I know that she’s seen a lot and been through a lot.”

Police Responded to Another Shooting the Previous Day

The afternoon before Matthews allegedly shot her parents, authorities say she shot Samson Moore, an ex-boyfriend and the father of one of her children. Moore’s cousin, Suporia Moore, told Fox10TV that Matthews shot Samson in the face without saying anything. “He is currently on a ventilator,” Suporia said last week. “He cannot talk, he cannot move.”

Police said Matthews also allegedly shot at her brother, who wasn’t hit. They arrested her early on Oct. 21 at a local hotel, noting that her two young children were safe.

The Kingdom Mission Center: Churches Supporting Missionaries in Korea and Beyond

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It was a joy to visit with Pastor David Hwang at SaeJoongAng Church in GyungGi-do, Korea. We will profile their church later in Outreach Magazine, but I wanted to let you know about one quick thing.

The church LOVES missionaries and they send them out all over the world. They currently are supporting numerous missionaries around the world. The Korean church is passionate about missions.

Now the church has over 10,000 attendance. Not every church can do this, but they have built something like a hotel for missionaries. They can house 60 missionary families and use these rooms to serve the missionaries when they are off their field for a session.

They call the multi-level facility the Kingdom Mission Center. Pastor Hwang gave me a brief tour.

There is a team that greets the missionaries and care for their needs, like a hotel.

They explain the purpose here:

But, it’s not just lodging. It includes clothing for missionaries.

They also provide education and fun experiences for the children. 

Former Youth Pastor Convicted of Sexually Abusing Teen While Aboard an Airplane

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A former youth pastor has been convicted of abusive sexual contact aboard an aircraft. Justin Baker, 41, was arrested March 14 after sexually assaulting an 18-year-old woman on a flight from Burbank, California, to Seattle. 

Editor’s note: This article refers to reports of sex abuse that some readers might find triggering and/or disturbing.

The U.S. Attorney’s Office for the western district of Washington announced the conviction on Thursday (Oct. 24), noting that the jury only took 90 minutes to deliberate following a three-day trial. 

Baker was arrested after the Alaska Airlines flight on which he was boarded arrived at the Seattle-Tacoma International Airport. 

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According to the victim’s testimony, Baker was in the middle seat and the victim was seated by the window. Baker conversed with the victim, who disclosed her age and told Baker that she was preparing to go to college.

The victim alleged that Baker showed her sexually explicit text messages he had on his phone before draping his jacket over both their laps. Baker then proceeded to grope the victim’s leg and genitals over her clothing. 

The victim said that she attempted to move away from Baker and asked him to stop, but he persisted, attempting to grope her breast. 

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Eventually, the victim was able to get away from Baker, and she reported the assault to the plane’s flight crew. She said that as she passed Baker to get into the aisle of the plane, Baker groped her buttocks. 

Mindy Caliguire: Soul Care for the Exhausted Leader

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Do you experience feelings of exhaustion, overwhelm, maybe isolation, or even burnout? In this week’s conversation on FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye is joined by Mindy Caliguire. Mindy is the founder and president of Soul Care, an organization committed to helping leaders cultivate healthy souls, both for themselves and the people they serve. Mindy has served in a number of ministry roles, and her newest book is titled, “Ignite Your Soul.” Together, Mindy and Jason explore how we can reframe our perspective of caring for our own souls to view it as an invitation rather than another item on our to-do list. Mindy then shares some incredible ideas and examples of how we can begin prioritizing our own soul care.

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View the entire podcast here.

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Ralph Fiennes Talks About Papal Thriller ‘Conclave,’ Women’s Ordination

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This article contains spoilers for the film.

(RNS) — Despite constant buzz about Pope Francis’ age and health, the only conclave — the gathering of the Catholic Church’s College of Cardinals to elect a new pontiff — on the horizon is in theaters: A cinematic flocking of red-hatted, red-robed princes of the church portrayed in a star-studded thriller in theaters Oct. 25.

“Conclave,” Robert Harris’ 2016 novel, dramatizes the Catholic process for choosing a new supreme leader in a film that has already won top prizes at multiple film festivals and seems well positioned for awards show season.

Despite the barrage of the improbable, telenovela-worthy plot twists, the film’s tone is serious, with artistic shots of the cardinals and the Vatican and a string-heavy score backing theological discussions about doubt and power.

Director Edward Berger, who comes to “Conclave” after winning an Oscar for 2022’s “All Quiet on the Western Front,” told RNS he was drawn to the world of Harris’ novel both because of its “theatricality,” as well as the avenue it takes to explore what happens in an “institution where a top job is empty.”

While Berger was raised Protestant, he remembers visiting a friend’s Catholic church and being curious “because I thought it was so much more interesting than my service where I went, because of the theatricality, in a way, and all the rituals.”

But he also remembers being a little frightened by those rituals. The director explained, “They intimidated me because I always thought I would do something wrong.”

Ralph Fiennes, who stars as Cardinal Lawrence, the dean of the College of Cardinals, said the “human questions” are what he loves about the film.

“The church is peopled by human beings, and it’s interesting to reflect on their motivation,” said Fiennes, best known most recently for a lead role in “The Menu” and for playing the arch-villain Lord Voldemort in the Harry Potter movies.

“I thought this script did not seek to satirize or somehow cynically exploit the Catholic church,” he told RNS. “I thought it was a very human look at a particular aspect of the Catholic Church, which is huge and complex.”

He also explained that those making the film had done their best to be “accurate to the details of ritual” with a religious adviser on set. “I hope at a physical, practical level, it’s accurate. I’m sure there’ll be people to tell us where we did things wrong, but that was the aspiration anyway,” he said.

Fiennes, who was raised Catholic but now describes himself as “lapsed,” said he still has “a very keen interest in what it is to have a spiritual guide or sense of a path” and described the Catholic church as “an object of great interest” to him.

20 Signs of a Great Speech That Sadly Changes No One’s Life

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A reporter once said of Abraham Lincoln prior to his presidency, “His speaking went to the heart because it came from the heart. I have heard celebrated orators who could start thunders of applause without changing any man’s opinion. Mr. Lincoln’s great speech was of the higher type, which produced conviction in others because of the conviction of the speaker himself. ”These words are from Doris Kearns Goodwin’s new book, Leadership in Turbulent Times, which I am currently reading. If the remaining two-thirds of this book are as good as the first-third, this will go down as one of the best leadership books I will have ever read. It should be in the library of every leader. It is that good.

One of the leaders she profiles is the legendary United States president Abraham Lincoln. After a failed initial stint in Congress, a 32-year-old Abraham Lincoln entered into a deep depression. No longer in politics, he re-entered the legal profession. After a period of waiting, Lincoln returned to politics by making arguments in the House and assisting in congressional and presidential elections.

This interim period was not downtime. It was in intense time of personal reflection, evaluation and growth. Lincoln’s time arguing cases was a time for discipline to confront weaknesses and practices which kept him from achieving his goals and dreams. It was also a time to work on his craft as a communicator.

Lincoln became such a success in defending clients and making arguments before juries that his practice became the largest in central Illinois. By time he re-entered politics, Lincoln had become the country’s greatest communicator because of relentless self-evaluation and constant reps. He would become one of our America’s best communicators ever.

As mentioned in the opening quote, there is a difference between a strong speech and a transformative message that changes someone’s life. Lincoln learned the difference. You can as well.

When and Why We Stopped Singing about Heaven, and How to Start Again

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American evangelical churches aren’t singing about heaven as often or as well as they used to. And this isn’t just my personal opinion. As part of a larger research project, I compared two large selections of worship songs. The first selection was the most commonly sung congregational songs in the United States from 2000–2015; the second group was the most commonly published congregational songs in the United States from 1737–1960. Among many similarities, one difference was striking: the topic of heaven, which once was frequently and richly sung about, has now all but disappeared.

This article begins by tracing examples of the differences between these two groups of songs and offers some explanations for the changes. Troubled by what these changes indicate, I conclude by exhorting local churches to continue to sing about heaven.

WHAT’S CHANGED

To begin, consider the different ways believers sing about the presence of God. In broad strokes, traditional American hymns describe our journey toward God’s presence in a future, heavenly home as a pilgrimage from a fallen city toward a celestial one, much like John Bunyan’s story, A Pilgrim’s Progress. In contrast, much of Contemporary Worship Music (CWM) refers to God’s presence as a current and near experience.

A brief comparison of songs from each period demonstrates this difference. William Williams’ 1745 hymn, “Guide Me, O Thou Great Jehovah” refers to being a “pilgrim” (verse 1). It asks God to lead “me all my journey through” (verse 2) until he would “land me safe on Canaan’s side” (verse 3). The chorus to John Cennick’s 1743 hymn, “Jesus My All to Heaven Has Gone” repeats, “I’m on my journey home to the new Jerusalem. I’m on my journey home to the new Jerusalem.” And the old well-known Irish hymn “Be Thou My Vision” prays, “May I reach heaven’s joys, O bright heaven’s sun.”

Perhaps the clearest example of a pilgrimage hymn is Samuel Stennett’s “On Jordan’s Stormy Banks I Stand.” In the opening line, the believer describes his present location as “stormy” and looks toward the “fair and happy land” of heaven. The second verse develops the theme: “O’er all those wide extended plains shines one eternal day; there God the Son forever reigns, and scatters night away.” Stennett then contrasts this fallen world with the blissfulness of the world to come: “No chilling winds or poisonous breath can reach that healthful shore; sickness and sorrow, pain and death, are felt and feared no more.” The final verse strains to see God’s presence as a distant reality: “When I shall reach that happy place, I’ll be forever blest, for I shall see my Father’s face and in his bosom rest.” You can almost feel the ache, the yearning for what’s promised and hoped-for, but not yet seen.

4 Must-Know Church Marketing Secrets

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I once had the opportunity to share at a gathering of United Methodist Church leaders near Washington D.C. I shared four things I think church leaders need to know about church marketing. Below are some notes and videos I shared with them. Enjoy!

I believe passionately that the local church is the hope of the world, and I believe we’ve got the greatest message that’s out there: the message of the Gospel. I carry the conviction that the greatest message deserves the greatest church marketing, creativity, and storytelling.

Marketers spend millions of dollars every single year to tell us that our lives would be better or enhanced with the products, services, or ideas they are selling.

We aren’t about selling salvation as a product, trying to woo people to our services, or trying to convince them to convert to what we think. We are about seeing the trajectory of people’s lives changed and hearts surrendered to the Gospel.

I believe that with every generation comes the challenge of communicating the unchanging, timeless message of the Gospel in a way that is relevant and compelling to the culture of its time.

We live in a generation that has been influenced and shaped by marketing and now we need to focus on church marketing. If you want your brand or church to grow, you can actually source some content creation from professionals who are topnotch in the industry.

God is the author of creativity. The first glimpse we see of Him in creation is that He is a creative God.

I believe that we are called to reflect that same creativity in whatever it is that we do for Him—and in this instance, in how we market and communicate His message to the community where our churches find themselves.

Traditional Marketing

  • Traditional marketing, by definition, means “the action or business of promoting and selling products or services.”
  • Marketing as we know it today was deeply influenced by the Madmen era of advertising executives.
  • Those ideas have created a tidal wave of commercial messages that have interrupted our daily lives.
  • The average person is exposed to over 3,000 commercial images every single day. That’s nearly one million per year.
  • Everywhere you look, there’s a constant barrage of messages and information trying to get our attention.
  • The result of that is we’ve learned to filter out the noise.
  • We record TV shows to our DVRs, and fast-forward the commercials.
  • We glaze over banner ads and pop-up windows.
  • We are sick of marketing.
  • We are sick of being “sold to.”
  • We’ve learned to be untrusting of what’s being sold to us.
  • This generation has lost trust in marketing, big business, politics, and religion.
  • The rules of marketing have changed.
  • Marketers have even gone so far as to redefine marketing.
  • In 2011, the American Marketing Association changed their definition of marketing to say marketing is, “an organizational function and a set of processes for creating, communicating, and delivering value to customers and for managing customer relationships in ways that benefit the organization and its stakeholders.”
  • It’s moved from promoting and selling to adding value and managing relationships.
  • You can’t buy your way to the top, and you can’t win by plastering your name everywhere.
  • What captures people’s attention today isn’t a clever jingle or great art and copy [although those things can help]; it’s compelling stories, emotional connection, and sharing.
  • That commercial was for a Web browser.
  • Ten years ago, a commercial message would have focused on the features and explained why Google Chrome was one of the best Web browsers for you to use.
  • Instead, this commercial focused on the story. It gives you emotional connection. It’s less about the product and more about the story it helps you tell.
  • It works.

4 Things You Need to Know About Church Marketing:

1. Church Marketing isn’t a line item on your budget.

    • It’s not a group or committee of volunteers.
    • It’s not what you do at Easter and Christmas.
    • It’s not fliers, brochures, mailers, or even your Web site.
    • Marketing is the sum total of everything your church does.
    • Every phone call a staff member takes is marketing.
    • Everything you write for your church Web site is marketing.
    • Every usher, greeter, and children’s worker is marketing.
    • Every word your pastor says [or doesn’t say] is marketing.
    • Every e-mail interaction someone has with a member of your church staff is marketing.
    • Every person who attends your church is church marketing.
    • Everything your church does is church marketing.
    • The challenging part of all this is how much of it is out of our control.
    • We can try to manage perceptions, set standards and expectations, and create compelling media and slick brochures, but it’s everything everyone else does that truly markets your church.
    • Church marketing is a team effort that’s not on the shoulders of a single person or department in your church, but the collaborative efforts of everyone (paid staff, volunteers, and attendees) that ultimately defines your church marketing.
    • What message are the experiences people have with your church communicating?
    • What does your marketing say about you and your church?
    • What different aspects of people’s experiences with your church need to be reworked?
  • Is there a disconnect between what you say and what people experience?
  • Where are the gaps in your church marketing?
  • Have you ever wondered what it would be like if Starbucks marketed like a church?

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On ‘Jamal Bryant Podcast,’ Dante Bowe Discusses How He ‘Accidentally’ Posted a Nude Selfie

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Former Maverick City Music singer Dante Bowe recently sat down with Pastor Jamal Bryant of New Birth Missionary Baptist Church to discuss Bowe’s transition from gospel music to R&B.

One of the first things the Grammy Award- and Dove Award-winning singer, who says he doesn’t do many interviews because he’s “too honest,” discussed with Bryant was the real reason he was removed from Maverick City Music in September 2022.

“Okay, so everybody wants to know, because so many stories circulate,” Bryant told Bowe. Laughing, Bryant referenced to Maverick City Music’s statement about pausing its “professional relationship” with Bowe due to “behavior that is inconsistent with [their] core values and beliefs.”

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“Yeah, man,” Bowe replied. “You know what’s crazy—and we cool now—but like I didn’t really bow to anything, like any of that stuff, you know? I mean, yeah, you know, I was supposed to go away for six months.”

“Why?” Bryant asked.

“First it was because I would do things on my own,” Bowe responded, explaining that he was becoming more popular as a solo act.

“So I was the first in my group to perform at the Doves by myself, while they performed second after me. [At the] Stellar Awards, [I was] nominated on my own,” Bowe said, adding that he “doesn’t like talking about my accolades.”

Nevertheless, he continued, “I had already made No. 1s and stuff on my own, and I think I was still part of the group, and so I had to turn down a bunch of gigs and different things like that with the group.”

“And so naturally, you’re replaceable, because you might do eight dates out of the 20-something we got to do,” Bowe said. “So it’s already like, we can get rid of you.”

RELATED: Maverick City Music ‘Pauses’ Their Relationship With Grammy Award-Winning Singer Dante Bowe Due to His Behavior

Bowe claimed that other artists in the collective were “doing all kinds of bad stuff.” He said, “I was just the one that was, like, used as the poster child.”

67% of Pastors Have Personal History of Porn Use, Reports Barna

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The American church has a porn problem. Nearly 1 in 5 pastors (18%) in the United States currently struggles with pornography. Two-thirds (67%) have engaged with porn at some point in their lives. And 74% of practicing Christians “who have engaged with porn” say no one is helping them avoid it.

These sobering statistics are from the recent study, “Beyond the Porn Phenomenon,” by Barna and Pure Desire Ministries, a follow-up to Barna’s 2016 study, “The Porn Phenomenon.” While the findings are disheartening, the researchers nevertheless have words of encouragement for church leaders, as well key takeaways regarding how churches can be equipped to address the poison of porn.

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Since 2016, not much has changed about society’s porn problem. In fact, as you’ll see in this latest study, some things have become worse,” said Barna researchers. “And there’s even greater opportunity—and need—for the Church to respond.” 

“Our dream at Pure Desire is to see the Church as the safest place possible for someone to admit to their sexual struggles or the struggles of a loved one,” said Pure Desire Ministries Executive Director Nick Stumbo. “This can only happen as we all learn to respond well to those who are struggling or hurting and provide focused, intentional community around this topic.” 

“May we rise to this cultural moment and create healing space—for all men and women, married or single, struggling or partnered with someone struggling—to find lasting hope and freedom in Christ,” he added. “You are not alone.” 

Porn Problem in the American Church

In 2016, Barna released the report, “The Porn Phenomenon,” which showed that the use of pornography in American culture was pervasive and accepted. Now, porn use in the U.S., which was at 55% in 2015,  has increased to 61% in the present day. Porn use has increased among women, and younger generations report using porn more often than older generations do. 

“Beyond the Porn Phenomenon,” said Stumbo, shows that the “average Christian is not experiencing freedom in this area.” Moreover, church leaders are also struggling, and it is not common for churches to provide help tailored to sexual addiction.

One of the areas the report evaluates is the relationship between porn use and “betrayal trauma,” which results when “the people or institutions on which a person depends for survival significantly violate that person’s trust or well-being.” Researchers write that the new report demonstrates “just how crucial it is for church leaders to better understand betrayal trauma and pornography use within their congregations.” 

RELATED: Porn Is a Women’s Problem, Too. Our Solutions Need To Be Woman-Oriented.

“Faith community can be a place where betrayed spouses are reminded how God ‘rescues those whose spirits are crushed’ (Psalm 34:18, NLT),” the researchers said. “However, without recognizing the very real devastation of this trauma, church leaders risk mishandling the pain these individuals experience, leaving them feeling more hurt, unheard and invalidated.” 

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